The percentages of M81=M183 are high in north-western Africa. In a Morocco study it reached frequencies of 65-98% among the Berber communities. High percentages are in the bordering countries of Algeria, Tunesia en Spain. A shared ancestor lived about 3000 ybp.
E-PF2431 has a similar distribution, but much more ancestors on the south side of the Sahara.
At some moment i thought that it was likely that the ancestor of these branches became Jewish in Iberia. The present statistics do not follow this scenario. In that case we would expect much more Jewish people with R1b-DF27, which has a factor of more than ten larger percentage in Iberia, but the number of DF27-branches is not a factor of ten larger.
On yfull one can see the branches of E-M81, E-V65, E-PF2431,
In a paper on "The male lines of the Maghreb: Phoenicians, Carthage, Muslim conquest and Berbers" (2019) it is argued that the origin on the M81 and V65 lines is not in the Maghreb, but in Phoenicia/Levant. In 2019-2021 more samples are added. The argument that V65 has a Levant origin is strenghtened, while for M81 both scenarios still seem open.
The arguments that DNA exchange took place between Maghreb and Levant in the Phoenician period are still valid. Whether the ancestral lines originate in Levant or Maghreb before the exchange is not yet clear. It is clear that the percentage population growth in the Phoenician/Punic period was very strong in the Maghreb, and the present percentages of these lines are higher in the Maghreb than in the Levant. In this page we named the E-PF2431 and E-M81 branches Maghreb. It is expected that it will become clear, if more lines will have done a NGS test.
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List of SNPs in yfull tree:Home - A0-T - A1 - A1b - BT - CT - DE - E - M5479 - P147 - P177 - M215 - M35 - Z827 - L19 - M81