AB-123

Jewish Y-DNA branch AB-123

Introduction

This group is reported by one person: M. Waas.

This person is from the Turkish Jewish community.

Reported SNP's: U1+, L13+, Z2022+, Z2003+, Z2017+, Z30718+. On experimental G tree it is reported as 2.8kybp, equal to a parallel tree of Hispanics.

Z2017 is dated at 3.0kybp. The descendants spread over Turkey, Germany/Switzerland/Austria, Poland, Great-Britain, Ireland,

We have three lines in this close group. It is this person from Turkey, one group is the modal of G-M201 of the G-M201 persons of Jews of Afghanistan and a third line is Jacobi (Iran) who is at ftdna U1 project. Out of the 37 markers that are available in the three branches the CDY is different (35-38 Afghanistan, 37-38 Turkey and 36-37 Iran) and DYS439 is 11 for the person from Turkey, while the other lines have 12. It is clear that they have a recent shared ancestor.

If we look at the branches below Z2017 (3.0kybp, so 1000 BCE) we see 6 branches. The here reported Jewish branch (1), the GB branch, with e.g. Hall and Blackmon (2), the German branch (with Baumgartner and Stauffner) (3), Adam Mosch 1530 in Austria (4), Korey (Poland) (5) and possibly 54829 from Italy (6). A spread of a branch with this large geographical distribution in the last 3000 years is most likely the result of the Jewish Diaspora. The name Mosch could originate from Moses. The six branches have several markers that are not shared by the other branches. E.g. the branch of the Jewish branch (1) share DYS608=12, DYS576=18, DYS570=18, DYS413=20-22 and DYS520=21. The first three are present in all the three Jewish branches (Turkey, Afghanistan, Iran), which confirms their shared ancestry.

The equal and special DYS464 markers of the the Jewish (1) and the GB branch (2) of 12-12-14-14-14-14 probably means that they share an ancestor that is not shared by the others (so more recent than the other branches). The order of the other branches could not yet be predicted on the basis of the present STR markers. Next Generation Sequencing will answer this question.

With the information given, M. Waas concluded that the data of the Jewish branch group (1) is consistent with the history of Meashdadi Jews from Iran. The Afghan relation is reported on the wikipedia page. The Turkish person has a history that is likely to be consistent in moving from Iran to Livorno to Turkey.

This branch is in the G-group of Jewish Branches.

STR and SNP characteristics

group Name Ancestor Country SNP D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
1
9
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
8
5
D
Y
S
4
2
6
D
Y
S
3
8
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
D
Y
S
3
8
9
i
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
8
9
i
i
D
Y
S
4
5
8
D
Y
S
4
5
9
D
Y
S
4
5
5
D
Y
S
4
5
4
D
Y
S
4
4
7
D
Y
S
4
3
7
D
Y
S
4
4
8
D
Y
S
4
4
9
D
Y
S
4
6
4
D
Y
S
4
6
0
Y
-
G
A
T
A
-
H
4
Y
C
A
I
I
D
Y
S
4
5
6
D
Y
S
6
0
7
D
Y
S
5
7
6
D
Y
S
5
7
0
C
D
Y
D
Y
S
4
4
2
D
Y
S
4
3
8
D
Y
S
5
3
1
D
Y
S
5
7
8
D
Y
F
3
9
5
S
1
D
Y
S
5
9
0
D
Y
S
5
3
7
D
Y
S
6
4
1
D
Y
S
4
7
2
D
Y
F
4
0
6
S
1
D
Y
S
5
1
1
D
Y
S
4
2
5
D
Y
S
4
1
3
D
Y
S
5
5
7
D
Y
S
5
9
4
D
Y
S
4
3
6
D
Y
S
4
9
0
D
Y
S
5
3
4
D
Y
S
4
5
0
D
Y
S
4
4
4
D
Y
S
4
8
1
D
Y
S
5
2
0
D
Y
S
4
4
6
D
Y
S
6
1
7
D
Y
S
5
6
8
D
Y
S
4
8
7
D
Y
S
5
7
2
D
Y
S
6
4
0
D
Y
S
4
9
2
D
Y
S
5
6
5
AB-123G-U1-3597941422151012-14111211121129189-911112316212712-12-14-14-14-14111019-201512181837-38111011815-1681110811111420-22141012121981221211614111310111111

list of SNPs: G - M201 - P287 - P15 - L1259 - L30 - CTS2488 - P303 - L140 - U1 - L13 - Z2022 - Z2003 - Z2017 - Z30718

Ages of the branch


figure caption 1

Size of the branch


figure caption 2

Data references

The following kitnr's are recognized in this group:
359794

Kits with nearby 67-markers are found in semargl.me

Kits with nearby markers are found in familytreedna projects

Check for yourself by inspecting the data that was used.