AB-011

Jewish Y-DNA branch AB-011

Introduction

This is the largest of the E1b-V13 branches. The old ideas (2015-2016):

They had on average 9 mutations from the shared ancestor to the 4 branches. This means that their shared ancester was most likely Jewish and lived in Judea or Iberia. In the Iberian dataset of Adams et al. we also find 17 persons (out of 1140) close to this group (genetic distance of max. 2 markers).

Apart from these four Ashkenazi groups, we also have many other people near in genetic distance but large geographic distance. It is possible that these other people changed from a Jewish religion to a different religion; it is also possible that the ancestors were not Jewish. More SNP measurements should be able to give a clearer view on the history of this group.

107633 is from Macedonia and reported on the Sephardic page of ftdna. Same with 91097 and 110940 Cavalieros from Turkey and Greece.

The new ideas: two branches (AB-011 and AB-012) both have one person that did a NGS test (Big Y). They share a SNP (BY77657) that is not shared by the large amount of V13 descendants. The ftdna vcf-file is insufficient to determine a tmrca. A scenario with a shared Jewish ancestor seems likely. From this data it is unclear where the ancestor lived. Given the number and sizes of the Ashkenazi and Sephardic branches, it seems most likely that the shared ancestor of AB-011 and AB-012 was in the Ashkenazi countries. One non-Jewish person has a STR distance that is closer to AB-012 than the AB-011 branch and has an origin in Servia near Kosovo. This makes the SNP test of this person very interesting. Possible scenario's: the close distance of the 67 STR markers to AB-012 is a statistical coincidence (1), and this person is not in the shared branch of, he does not share Y142744 (which is before the start of Judaism and is shared by one person outside the Jewish branch); the ancestor of this person was Ashkenazi (2); the ancestor shares part of the markers that are shared by the AB-011 and AB-012 (3). In that last case, it is likely that an ancestor near Servia-Kosovo became Jewish before the descendants went to the Ashkenazi countries.

This branch is in the E1b-V13-group of Jewish Branches.
This branch is a member of the Ashkenazi branches
This branch has some matches that might be related after the start of Judaism. Possible related are AB-854 (based on STRs).

STR and SNP characteristics

group	Name	Ancestor	Country	SNP	D Y S 3 9 3	D Y S 3 9 0	D Y S 1 9	D Y S 3 9 1	D Y S 3 8 5	D Y S 4 2 6	D Y S 3 8 8	D Y S 4 3 9	D Y S 3 8 9 i	D Y S 3 9 2	D Y S 3 8 9 i i	D Y S 4 5 8	D Y S 4 5 9	D Y S 4 5 5	D Y S 4 5 4	D Y S 4 4 7	D Y S 4 3 7	D Y S 4 4 8	D Y S 4 4 9	D Y S 4 6 4	D Y S 4 6 0	Y - G A T A - H 4	Y C A I I	D Y S 4 5 6	D Y S 6 0 7	D Y S 5 7 6	D Y S 5 7 0	C D Y	D Y S 4 4 2	D Y S 4 3 8	D Y S 5 3 1	D Y S 5 7 8	D Y F 3 9 5 S 1	D Y S 5 9 0	D Y S 5 3 7	D Y S 6 4 1	D Y S 4 7 2	D Y F 4 0 6 S 1	D Y S 5 1 1	D Y S 4 2 5	D Y S 4 1 3	D Y S 5 5 7	D Y S 5 9 4	D Y S 4 3 6	D Y S 4 9 0	D Y S 5 3 4	D Y S 4 5 0	D Y S 4 4 4	D Y S 4 8 1	D Y S 5 2 0	D Y S 4 4 6	D Y S 6 1 7	D Y S 5 6 8	D Y S 4 8 7	D Y S 5 7 2	D Y S 6 4 0	D Y S 4 9 2	D Y S 5 6 5	D Y S 7 1 0	D Y S 4 8 5	D Y S 6 3 2	D Y S 4 9 5	D Y S 5 4 0	D Y S 7 1 4	D Y S 7 1 6	D Y S 7 1 7	D Y S 5 0 5	D Y S 5 5 6	D Y S 5 4 9	D Y S 5 8 9	D Y S 5 2 2	D Y S 4 9 4	D Y S 5 3 3	D Y S 6 3 6	D Y S 5 7 5	D Y S 6 3 8	D Y S 4 6 2	D Y S 4 5 2	D Y S 4 4 5	Y - G A T A - A 1 0	D Y S 4 6 3	D Y S 4 4 1	Y - G G A A T - 1 B 0 7	D Y S 5 2 5	D Y S 7 1 2	D Y S 5 9 3	D Y S 6 5 0	D Y S 5 3 2	D Y S 7 1 5	D Y S 5 0 4	D Y S 5 1 3	D Y S 5 6 1	D Y S 5 5 2	D Y S 7 2 6	D Y S 6 3 5	D Y S 5 8 7	D Y S 6 4 3	D Y S 4 9 7	D Y S 5 1 0	D Y S 4 3 4	D Y S 4 6 1	D Y S 4 3 5
AB-011	E1b-V13-L241-BY77657				13	24	13	10	17-17	11	12	12	13	11	30	15	8-9	11	11	26	14	20	32	16-16-17-17	9	11	19-21	15	12	18	21	32-34	11	10	10	8	15-15	8	11	10	8	12	10	0	23-24	18	11	12	12	15	7	12	22	18	12	13	12	14	11	11	11	11	35	15	8	15	11	22	27	19	14	12	12	11	11	10	12	11	10	10	13	31	10	13	18	14	13	10	19	16	21	13	24	13	13	16	23	15	22	19	13	14	17	9	12	11
AB-011b	E1b-V13-L241-2nd				13	24	13	10	16-18	11	12	12	13	11	30	15	9-9	11	11	27	14	20	32	16-16-17-17	9	11	19-21	16	12	17	20	32-33	12	10	10	8	15-15	8	11	10	8	12	10	0	23-24	18	11	12	12	15	7	12	22	18	12	13	12	14	11	11	11	11	35	15	8	15	11	22	27	19	14	12	12	11	11	10	13	11	10	10	12	31	10	13	18	14	13	10	19	16	21	13	24	13	15	16	23	15	22	18	13	14	18	9	12	11
AB-011c	E1b-V13-L241c				13	24	13	10	17-17	11	12	13	13	11	30	15	8-9	11	11	26	14	20	31	16-16-16-16	9	11	19-21	16	12	18	20	32-32	11	10	10	8	15-15	8	11	10	8	12	10	0	23-24	18	11	12	12	15	7	12	22	18	12	13	12	14	11	11	11	11	34	15	8	15	11	22	27	19	14	12	12	11	11	10	12	11	10	10	13	31	10	13	18	14	13	10	19	16	21	13	24	13	13	16	23	15	22	18	13	14	17	9	12	11

List of SNPs in yfull tree:Home - A0-T - A1 - A1b - BT - CT - DE - E - M5479 - P147 - P177 - M215 - M35 - L539 - M78 - Z1919 - L618 - CTS10912 - V13 - Z1057 - CTS1273 - BY3880 - Z5018 - S2979 - Z16659 - L241 - Y142744 - Y142743

STR data collection of AB-011

Ages of the branch

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Size of the branch

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Data references

The following kitnr's are recognized in this group:
97101 80640 139590 74063 N44391 60030 YR9MJ

Kits with nearby 67-markers are found in semargl.me

Check for yourself by inspecting the data that was used.

AB-011b

Jewish Y-DNA branch AB-011b

Introduction

This branch is in the E1b-V13-group of Jewish Branches.