It is likely that the Portuguese and Jewish Egyptian DNA are their closest Y-DNA ancestor known at the moment. An estimate of the shared ancestor is very uncertain. Likely more than 1600 ybp.

The branch of the next person in SK863+ (which is a very old line; the distance between SK863+ and M78+ is between 14-24kybp) is large, and at least 3000ybp. This person has ancestor near 1600 CE in the Netherlands (N4849). At the moment only these three lines are reported in SK863+.

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list of SNPs: E - P147,L339,L614,L794 - P177 - P2,P179,P180,P181,DYS391p,L613,L856 - M215,L336 - M35.1,M243,L117,L545,L676,L789,L794,L796,L854 - V68,L539,L546 - SK863

The following kitnr's are recognized in this group:
256020

Check for yourself by inspecting the data that was used.